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Public intellectual and commentary . his book is a classic. so his insight in terms of our culture was very important steve: when you were dean and putting together the ave maria law school. scalia said hey, you need somebody big. try to get bork and you asked him four types and he said no, no, no . until he said yes. that made a difference for you. you have it presoycely right . fourth time he said yes was when tom mon on han was founder and funder of the law school were driving to a press conference and we decided to try the judge one more time, and we did and he said yes . the rest was history for us. steve: and the great thing about having him as a part of history teaching the law stune in ave maria. he can recount things he was ....

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