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I'm an expert on the process, on legislation. and there's some truth in that. it's rare to get the hard core play of simply i have a relationship and if you want in, you should pay me. he ran around in this really hand fisted way. i remember hearing about it in 2017 and saying i have the president's cell phone. i'm his friend. i can get to him. you don't usually see it that baldly stated. in one sense it's refreshing to hear the proposition stated so clearly. on the other, it runs counter to the way the lobbying community tried to cloak what it does for years and years. >> particularly for som...

His face. it's like there's a double teamed yin/yang thing going on that i think is part of the mental gamesmanship that's put trump on defense. i will say last week it was interesting to see trump stop attacking everybody last week, including bob mueller and let sort of normal white house coordinated strategy. i'm not saying i approve of this but to see pence, giuliani and kelly all making a concerted argument through normal media channels going on the "today" show and other places and saying the things they're saying about how the mueller probe should be shut down, that's how a normal white ...

I mean look at the people that you talked about last segment that are leaving the government. you have to work within the system to change the system. >> except for if your purpose is to destroy the system. so the way in which -- i'm fascinated the way in which these segments were tying in, what evan osnos were talking about and the way we're talking about jared kushner, the notion there would be someone in the white house who would try to do another version of al gore's reinventing government, that's something every administration says we should streamline bureaucracy, make things work more e...

Business as a conflict of interest when rejecting his offer and modified his approach to remind the company that he was, quote, the president's lawyer. cohen's overall pitch was blunt, telling prospective clients that they should fire whomever was advising them and saying i have the best relationship with the president on the outside and you need to hire me. according to a person familiar with cohen's approach. >> so nick, this is not how business is usually done among lobbyists. i know people knock lobbyists, but there are rules even for consultants and a way to do things and a way not to do ...