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Throw in with this guy when there came to be diminishing returns. now jail is certainly a diminishing return. >> elliott, on that, having watched michael cohen testify, do you think it may help change what people perceive? seeing him there, seeing his attempt at perform ative redemption? >> it all comes down to credibility and he presented himself as a credible witness. now he was -- he wasn't saying anything that the public hadn't heard at some point before or at least many people in the public, myself included, some of us would have believed, but he -- number one, he didn't go all in on pres...

But to your point, kirsten, i think he balanced out the way he was so partisan at the beginning of his testimony where he said, trump's a con man, he's a cheat, he's a racist, and then at the end of his testimony, in his prepared comments, he also took on trump in a personal way. i don't think that helped cohen. i think if cohen had just stuck to the facts and what he knew and what he didn't know and then said, you know, donald trump would never hit melania, that was honest. that was honest. the beginning of it left me a little cold, because i felt like he just had to get his digs in there and...

Mueller is only going to create one work product. he may, but it may be multiple products. we have yet to see that. and i'm going to at least extend some hope that they'll keep their minds open enough with new evidence as it continues to mount, and we had two big bricks of evidence today, if not more. >> all right. well, i appreciate your time. i look forward to having you back on. i know you'll be questioning him tomorrow. thanks so much. and to all of you, our breaking news coverage continues now with "a.c. 360". >> a racist, a con man, a cheat. that's a description of the president of the u...

Kids tweeting, he did. >> he did want to work at the white house. and look, he would have liked to be white house chief of staff. he would have liked to work in the white house counsel's office. trump had a conversation with him saying i'd like you to come over, but i think trump knew that wasn't going to occur because the children were not in favor of it. and i don't know even if donald trump was in favor of it. but to your point, kirsten, i do think he balanced out the way he was so partisan at the beginning of his testimony where he said, you know, trump's a con man, he is a cheat, he is a ...

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