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Hotly anticipated, but here we are in 2019 learning new things every day. i think the simplest way to go about explaining what's in this plan is taking it in three parts. you've got the cost, how she's going to pay for it, and then the politics of it overall. on the cost front we were really looking at what's the number? what's the price tag that the warren team is going to put on new federal spending for medicare for all? we now know that this number is 20.5 trillion. and basically how they get there, because that estimate is lower than some of the other estimates for medicare for all costs t...

Anything that they despise and using trump as a proxy, yes? >> yes. i think the sad thing is this is so typical. this is like classic 2018 andca classic 2019. the inability to see your own t side and take responsibility. not only for your own actions but the people in your party. i cannot imagine the mental gymnastics you have to do to blame a president -- we are noth talking about reagan for the 1980s but blaming the president now for something that happened in the 1980s. i am just exhausted mentally thinking about what it takes to get there. >> this is more salacious. dr. susan block telling...

Are you surprised of these reports of robert mueller's focus on him? no, not at all. this is someone who had a long-standing relationship with donald trump, had encouraged him in the past to run for president and now had drawn himself quite close to donald trump while he was also talking to guccifer 2.0, talking to wikileaks and assange. now, roger stone would like us all to believe this self-avowed dirty trickster, that's what he called himself, somehow came clean in the election and sat on it side lines when someone close to him, and no one ever to roger stone had ever gotten this close to t...

Podesta's stolen e-mails. joining us now democratic congressman eric swalwell. also with us jil wine-banks, and mimi roca, both msnbc legal contributors. congressman swalwell, you were in the room with roger stone when he discussed all this with your committee. are you surprised of these reports of robert mueller's focus on him? no, not at all. this is someone who had a long-standing relationship with donald trump, had encouraged him in the past to run for president and now had drawn himself quite close to donald trump while he was also talking to guccifer 20.0, talking to wikileaks and assang...

Groups. it's very unlikely that any of those candidates are personally or professionally in support of abortion. for a lot of people on the conserve of it side, whether this question is asked or not, it's almost a moot point. they have believe all of the candidates would be strong in their view on that issue of abortion. >> abby phillip, thank you. joining me to discuss further, ranking member of the judiciary committee, congressman. we know these things happen in the senate. i heard your reaction there to senator collins saying -- her take on this when she spoke with jake. you laughed when ...