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This is not something playing out in the international diplomatic circuit as people vie for influence on a -- on a given nation overseas. this is coming into the context of an ongoing war in the middle of europe that again threatens to expand at any begin moment. the worst thing that you could have in a conflict is uncertainty by the major players. and if they are some level of ambiguity, as you are trying to scope the conflict and keep it small, to keep it from escalating, and from drawing in other nations, become biguity and you have trump saying these things that are at odd with the truth, ...

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Going to take that mask off. >> yeah. >> you don't care about what government says? >> no it's okay it's fine. >> for incomes. democracy yes. what is seen as significant here all be it small, the first reaction in four months unrest two protesters from chinese troops hosted right here. one held up a banner on top of the troops headquarters wrng of arrest is protesters continue to point the distracting laze per lights at the soldiers on guard. now, of course arthel intervention by chinese troops is seen as a last and most dangerous resort by beijing to this crisis watching that as well. back to...

So it was intentional to keep it small, but i would submit it was more lawful and appropriate reasons that we kept it small and didn't bring in sort of armies of people. >> but the idea that it wasn't the normal channels of a counter intelligence investigation. >> no, it wasn't normal. we were investigating a political -- people connected to a political campaign in the middle of a presidential election. so, no, there was nothing normal about that. so we were trying to figure out how to deal with a very abnormal situation in a way that was lawful and consistent with our prior practice and the w...

The thing that's interesting about this is that this was handled a very senior level of these departments. it wasn't handled in the ordinary way that investigations or counter intelligence activities are conducted. it was sort of an ad hoc small group. >> is that in line with your understanding of how the investigation was handled? there is, you can listen to that, and if you are inclined to have an ominous interpretation of it you can think, this small group at the top were trying to get president trump. >> yeah. i mean, so i was in that small group. and we kept it small out of an -- in an ef...