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Stepped down with this way with an oval office presentation and all of that. nikki haley lost clout with president trump and a lot of it had to do with mike pompeo. nikki haley was his go to. he was not getting along with mcmaster at that time. that's interesting. that aspect. the timing is key here. president trump said she told him six months ago she was going to be leaving. we are told so many people were caught off guard and she said i'm ready to leave at the end of the year and john kelly and pompeo were not aware of it. a lot of people in the west wing were not aware either. president tr...

Tillerson doesn't write them. and therefore it will be very could not strained. >> you're saying this meeting is a black box. that it is dealing, whatever happens in that meeting stays entirely within that meeting. >> the president can read it it. by having it small, that's right. the things that are and can. we didn't talk about the violation of sornlt of the united states in 2016. this makes it easier to control

Interptator. >> shepard: the president's own helpers are trying to get more people in the meeting, because they're understanding of what vladimir putin's want to make things happen in private meetings that shouldn't. >> reporter: right, there is also a desire by some people, particularly in the russian side, to make this meeting bigger, to give it a sense of more importance, by having more people in the room. it is kind of like if you have seven or eight major dignitaries from each country in the room, it becomes bigger than if you have a couple of people. the u.s. wants to keep it small, mayb...

Started to run for senate. will that work? is that real? will people see through this? >> we'll see. that's left to the voter of iowa, new hampshire south carolina, and elsewhere to decide. part of the problem is she might like to keep it small, but guys like you and i are going to be in tow, potentially a real problem for her to manage the cirque us that does follow that is mostly -- circus that does follow that is mostly media. she is a strong woman conjures strong opinions. people have been waiting for this for, gosh, the last seven years essentially. we'll be eager to see how it goes, for ...

Could not strained. >> you're saying this meeting is a black box. that it is dealing, whatever happens in that meeting stays entirely within that meeting. >> the president can read it it. by having it small, that's right. the things that are and can. we didn't talk about the violation of sornlt of the united states in 2016. this makes it easier to control that story after the meeting is over. >> what is the number one thing? someone who has been throwing these meetings. i think it was three-hour meeting. a lot of issues on the table start with being negotiated. what is the number one thing tha...