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Plan for winning in those early states, the campaign kind of wreaked havoc on a lot of peoples lives. people who picked up and moved to these states or worked for a candidate this they believed in. >> we'll see where this goes. alex burns, thank you very much. i recommend everybody read your piece in the "new york times." so much more insight that we couldn't cover in that short conversation. thanks. back to our breaking news out of london, a man stabbing several people near london bridge before being shot dead by police. official there's calling it terror related. and the taliban undermin...

Is bigotry and hatred, whether it is the fears. we need to begin. it's a complex issue. it's not simple. i want to note as you have noted mental illness rates aren't different than those around the world. the mass shootings are wildly different in the yiet. but you hear lay people, doctor. they'll say if you're going to commit a mass shooting with, you have to by definition be mentally ill. how could you be mentally sound and commit a mass shooting? what do you say to that? >> that's not correct. just because they do bad things does not mean they're mentally ill. it means someone has made a de...

Would eventually have certain criteria in place and then you call it terror. >> yeah, well, i think it's very clear. this is an act of terrorism. if you look at the gunmen's manifesto, he lays out very clearly his political motivatio motivation, his political agenda, he has hatred of muslims. he calls them invaders. he used this attack as being essentially a defense of the white race. a defense of white supremacy. so there is very little doubt that this is a horrendous, horrendous act of terrorism. the worst, certainly, to hit new zealand. something that is unfortunately happening increasingly...

Why, when you talk about these things going on in the world, why is his approval rating still moving up? that is worth discussing. why is it? progress in north korea, because of immigration, because of being tough on china? second amendment? collusion theory dying. is it terror, is it a stormy backlash. these variables exist. it kind of makes you think, he might be doing a pretty good jo good job. >> juan: do you know why his numbers --dash record number. >> greg: i knew your head would explode. i think a lot of this has to do with people saying he is the president. we are patriots.

Otherwise. >> what makes it terror? obviously it's terrifying. meaning there is a political basis for? >> reporter: the actual definition is this. it is is any violence, tkaeugz or threat of in pursuit of political aims or social aims. they have search warrants. they will try to find out were there social media postings. what was the mind-set? or was this just a mentally unstable individual. this will be a protracted investigation. it will not be wrapped up in a day or two. >> you heard one of the reporters, any motivation yet? was a note found? and he said way too soon. they're obviously in t...