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>> we don't know. that's the reason you have discovery in a lawsuit. the fact is, payments of any kind are inappropriate from a foreign government to the president of the united states. and so as part of the discovery process we'll learn the magnitude -- both the amount of money and frequency of the payments from a variety of foreign governments. but what's really at stake is the fundamental -- there is so much cynicism about government. people think people in government are doing it for their benefit to somehow advantage themselves. and our constitution doesn't permit that. so at the core is ...

Outfront mark hertling for the a general and juliette kayyem assistant secretary of hoemtds under president obama. juliette let's start with saudi arabia here. we have in happening. they are dlarpg the molden to avoid congress signing off. why? the president made history went to saudi arabia for the first trip. his son-in-law, sfon in law, crown prince. the saudi turned an entire black with the stay at the hoe pel tp spending hundreds of thousands at the trump hoe knell washington after the election. i could go on and on. saudi money matters. >> saudi money matters to trump as president and to...