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The president, would they be subject to being excelled for abusing their position, just curious. >> well, i think i'll let my colleague answer that question, but what i do know is i think my colleagues on the other side of the aisle as i said nervous about their prospects next november against president trump based on his amazing record of leadership in the last three years. with that i would yield back. thank you. >> gentleman yields back. i would recognize myself to speak in opposition to the amendment. i think that the facts amply demonstrate the charges in these two articles of impeachment...

More clarity. >> very interesting. joining us now democratic congresswoman jackie speir. congresswoman, thanks so much for joining us. are you satisfied with the democrats leadership to move forward with these two articles of impeachment, abuse of power and obstruction of congress while not including allegations from mueller report? >> i am satisfied. i thought reaching into the mueller report would be more complicated and make for a less effective effort to make our case. this is wholly focused on the phone call by president trump to the president of ukraine on july 25th and all the efforts t...

Trying to figure out whether they were obligated to turn the complaint over to congress. cnn has learned the first official move to with hold aid came the evening of july 25th call t same day president trump and the president of ukraine had the phone call that spawned the initial complaint. a transcript of mark sandy's closed door testimony was just released and he says he told his boss withholding aid might violate federal law that. was before his boss took over responsibility for the ukraine money. according to the testimony, two people left their job at the budget office at least partly b...

Were holding it up. >> right. it underscores that the administration didn't appreciate, i think, the gravity in what was at stake here. i certainly don't think they appreciated the national security risks associated with it. so president trump has for a while now used foreign policy aid as a lever, but as a policy, right, he's with held aid from central american countries, from pakistan, from lebanon now, from the palestinians and he ease used it in order to gain traction on other policy efforts. and presidents can do that. but the ukraine aid was congressionally mandated number one. number tw...

Felt like he's being extorted by the president based on these comments? >> i really think that's for the committee and the congress to -- >> you know what, it's really for the american people. >> i agree. >> and the american people aren't stupid. the american people can hear that and they can say i don't think he was under duress. i don't think he was being extorted. i don't think there was an exchange of a describe. and i would conclude with this last observation. it is common for national policy to with hold aid for various reasons. is that not true? >> it's true. >> it's frequent that we wi...