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perry, the texas governor who is running for the gop nomination. not in the newspaper hard copy, a lot of americans get, but in the online edition. he talked about the president and his birth certificate and he said he believes the president was born in the united states, but a little less confident on that birth certificate. of course, released earlier this year by hawaii after a request from the president. he went on in that interview to say i had dinner with donald trump and he doesn't think it was real. trump was flirting with a bid for the gop nomination and part of that was a p...

Hold dear. like the bill of rights and inalienable rights and private property. that's why i really think that it is great that you went into that right out of the gate in the book and you know, are beating that drum. because those are the things that people really need to hear. >> sean: i took a lot of heat, a lot of heat for this i interviewed you one night in march. i have the whole story in the book. the next night i invited on barack obama's pastor. as a matter of fact it was the last interview he did before the election. this was in march of 2007. i'm sure at that point he said stay off ...

Hold dear. like the bill of rights and inalienable rights and private property. that's why i really think that it is great that you went into that right out of the gate in the book and you know, are beating that drum. because those are the things that people really need to hear. >> sean: i took a lot of heat, a lot of heat for this i interviewed you one night in march. i have the whole story in the book. the next night i invited on barack obama's pastor. as a matter of fact it was the last interview he did before the election. this was in march of 2007. i'm sure at that point he said stay off ...

The value set that americans hold dear. those places will continue to work to make sure they know our interests and our concerns. >> so are you surprised that president trump is in moscow this summer? >> you know, i don't know what the president's schedule is going to be. i know ambassador bolton is planning to travel to moscow. sunday or monday he will meet with his counter part. and i think it's likely president trump will meet with his counterpart in the not too distant future following that meeting. >> interesting. let me ask about president xi. what is his role? does he have a veto over w...

Hold dear. the fact that this president in private wants to crack jokes with a bunch of rich people at a country club is very troubling. and it's disheartening for human rights crusaders. it's also, i think, sort of a boost and a shot in the arm to dictators and would-be dictators around the world and exactly the wrong message to send. >> no question trump seems to have a fondness for a strong man politically. will, you're in china. so, you know, your perspective there when you hear the president of the united states praisi praising xi. what are your thoughts? >> it's certainly disheartening f...