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Their voices have not been heard, that they are underrepresented in this government. they have problems with addiction as chris said. but many people of color feel the same way. they're underrepresented. they had a problem with crack addiction in the '80s and '90s and no one listened to them. why aren't these twos groups talking, van? what's the holdup for -- why can't they get together and discuss this? >> that's part of the tragedy of trump is that really, you have underdogs in red states and in blue states who have very similar problems. democrats have let down the urban poor. republicans h...

Arnade, j.d. vance and van jones. chris, you mentioned addiction earlier, didn't you? you talked to voters about that. this is a question i have to ask to the entire panel. we're talking about the sort of differences and the similarities between people who feel like they're forgotten. and i understand that the comparison though is so simple to me because the people in the rust belt, many trump supports, many of them white feel like their voices have not been heard, that they are underrepresented in this government. they have problems with addiction as chris said. but many people of color feel ...