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the video coming out of the town are horrific, fish, chicken's turning up dead or becoming extremely ill. the people wonder if they are next. >> burning plastics and chemicals in the air, issues with our dog vomiting, acting lethargic. >> the fish is dying so how my supposed to be safe bathing my children, cooking with any of it. >> i cannot date in town before i have a giant migraine. >> i don't feel anywhere in this town is. >> basically they nuked the town with chemicals to get a railroad open. >> you watch people investigating, they have giant hazmat suits on. but somehow, it is ...

D.a.g. in a position to consider invoking the 25th amendment. >> really important reporting and a lot of developments in the last hour. with us to discuss is jim schultz, former white house lawyer. david gurgen, to you, look, andy mccabe has been punished, fired for lying before, so there is an honesty question here. >> there is. we have to preface the conversation about this. he was investigated about being responsible for leaks. and then the less than candid accounting of that after the fact. that's what the i.g. report found. that of course has harmed his credibility. even so, there is a gr...

And so on, they're somewhat hard to prove. the question becomes are we exercising judgment to give someone a position on the supreme court. given now the number, i believe it's 29 times he was found to have given misleading or unclear or prevaricating testimony, we have to ask is this an individual who should get a lifetime appointment on the supreme court. >> so, cynthia, a number of critics have said the idea that we're going down this road of whether he perjured himself isn't the direction to go into on whether he should be on the supreme court. there are two conversations right now, whethe...

You made obviously untrue on their face promises to them, like if you like your health care, you can keep it, you can't fix the health care system without disrupting the health care system, you're going to lose some credibility. he should have done two things better. he should have planned the roll-out better and made sure it wasn't a debacle, and he should have figured out how to sell it without making people feel like they were sold a bill of goods. >> fair enough, but mr. kristol, he's now rebounding, above water on the character question, above water on the honesty question, and more impor...

Desperately seeking to hold on to this state, to do well in this state where the polls don't suggest he can win it. so the math is very unfavorable. and it's doubtful a speech like this can really change the dynamics. >> and, rebecca, are you in agreement with that, too little too late to change i guess the narrative, especially as he continues to talk about an election being rigged if he doesn't win? >> absolutely. i mean, the fact of the matter is for donald trump that most voters have already decided how they feel about him and about this election. the polling shows now that the vast majori...