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President on waterboarding, his answer. here it is. >> you don't consider a prolonged period of creating the sensation of drowning, you don't consider it torture? >> i don't. tell me what terrorist attacks is it you would have let go forward because you didn't want to be a mean and nasty fellow? are you going to trade the lives of a number of people because you want to preserve your honor? >> a couple of questions here. i think that's twisted thinking. and there are americans out there who think that he may be a war criminal. your thoughts on all that. >> well, i am fascinated that he contrast...

To be a mean and nasty fellow? are you going to trade the lives of a number of people because you want to preserve your honor? >> a couple of questions here. i think that's twisted thinking. and there are americans out there who think that he may be a war criminal. your thoughts on all that. >> well, i am fascinated that he contrasts what he did with honor, as if honor is a luxury. i've never heard him say that before. and he says honor kind of contemptuously. >> he says this about torture, when clearly torture does not provide the kind of intelligence that our intelligence agency is looking f...

Forward because you didn't want to be mean and nasty fellow? are you going to trade the lives of a number of people because you want to preserve your honor? >> a couple of questions here. i think that's twisted thinking. and there are americans out there who think that he may be a war criminal. your thoughts on all that. >> well, i am fascinated that he contrasts what he did with honor, as if honor is a luxury. i've never heard him say that before. and he says honor kind of contemptuously. >> he says this about torture, when clearly torture does not provide the kind of intelligence that our in...