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>> uh, no. there was significant evidence that even as early as july 25th at the time of this call that ukrainian officials had suspected that the aid was being withheld and there was a "new york times" article actually last week that wasn't included in our report. but from the former foreign deputy foreign minister who said that ukraine, president zelensky's office received a diplomatic cable from the embassy here the week of july 25th saying that the aid had been held. >> correct. and what i also show you on the screen is that it was on july 25th also, the same day of the call, that the stat...

His constituency but there is one other thing that i'm taking great note of, there are seven polls, seven of them that show his support with african-americans is up, anywhere from 16 to 34.5%, three of them. 34.5. 34, 33. he got 8% of the african-american vote in 2016. these are not outliers. these are real polls. how do you interpret that? >> i interpret that in that the democrats have no economic message. i think the reason that nancy pelosi and the democrats are moving forward with impeachment is because they believe what congressman al green said, which is, we better impeach him because if...

His constituency but there is one other thing that i'm taking great note of, there are seven polls, seven of them that show his support with african-americans is up, anywhere from 16 to 34.5%, three of them. 34.5. 34, 33. he got 8% of the african-american vote in 2016. these are not outliers. these are real polls. how do you interpret that? >> i interpret that in that the democrats have no economic message. i think the reason that nancy pelosi and the democrats are moving forward with impeachment is because they believe what congressman al green said, which is, we better impeach him because if...

So again, it's going to be down to each person, their last name, they'll have to think about their parents, think about their legacy for their children and grandchildren, and say, wait a minute, i'm going to back this guy, he's now rolling in a barrel off of niagara falls, he's a traitor and a criminal, so i'm going to back him for partisan purposes or am i going to do the right thing for the country that howard baker and barry goldwater did, 48, 47 years ago. >> let me ask you before we run out of time. you've got the mulvaneys, the pompeos, the barrs who will continue to do what the presiden...

Looked at the intelligence, we've looked at the information and the stuff about the ukraine is nonsense. so again, it's going to be down to each person, their last name, they'll have to think about their parents, think about their legacy for their children and grandchildren, and say, wait a minute, i'm going to back this guy, he's now rolling in a barrel off of niagara falls, he's a traitor and a criminal, so i'm going to back him for partisan purposes or am i going to do the right thing for the country that howard baker and barry goldwater did, 48, 47 years ago. >> you've got the mulvaneys, t...