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How do we ensure that they are treated decently and at the powerful don't in any way manipulate, subjugate and exploit them? >> tucker: if that's what democratic socialism is that i'm basically on board. i do think that ordinary people, middle-class people ought to have dignity and i think that our current systems made it hard for them to have dignity. so i agree with all of that. but the details matter. >> that's why albert einstein, helen keller, norman thomas, martin luther king jr., we can go on and on. they are all democratic socialist. one of the great founders. >> tucker: but has it str...

>> tucker: welcome back to a special edition of "tucker carlson tonight." can your children be friends with white people? that's an actual question posed by an actual person in an actual newspaper, "the new york times.t the author wasn't optimistic about the answer. "i will teach my boys the lessons generations old" he wrote. "i will teach them caution, i will teach them suspicion. i will teach them distrust. i will teach my boys to have profound doubts that friendship with white people is possible." those doubts, of course,ou mirrored the writer's own, as he put it. "history is provided littl...

Think kindness is important across the board, across the world. and in the u.s. we have a lot of work to do but i agree we also need to be working on other countries and encouraging humane policies be enacted there too. >> tucker: let me just end with this question, because i think it opens up an interesting topic. if you are saying that we shouldn't be cruel to animals and i agree with you completely and i hope other conservatives would pause and think about itma because i think a lot of them would agree.rv we've been trained in some way to defend tyson. i we shouldn't defend tyson, but that'...

Were, i think most people would try to survive. we really have a desire to survive. but in some cases if you kill and eat the goat you have more meat but if you have that goat as a companion you enjoyhe life. >> tucker: those are practical questions. i want to get to the root question, the moral question. do we have dominion over the animals or are they are peers? are they the same as people? >> we have the power over the animals and i think with a lot of power comes the responsibility. we can a kill them but whether e should kill them is a bigger question. >> tucker: okay. i have to say i sta...

Cheddar, period. why is that harming animals to eat dairy? i don't understand that. >> in order for a cow to produce milk she has to have a baby and the babies are taken away at birth and in some cases they are raised to become veal. a male calf born on the dairy farm, they are useless so they are actually raised to become veal calves. so they have it pretty rough and when they are no longer profitable on the dairy they are sent to slaughter and h usually killed about three or four years old. >> tucker: veal is a separate question. you could humanely milk a cow. it's not abuse to milk the cow....