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The effect of obamacare is really hitting people yet. a lot of attention on the glitches and it's not functioning well. i think once people see that their premiums have gone up, that their deductibles have gone up, that they can't keep their doctor, that they can't keep their plan, i think a lot of those positions will change. and we have always said repeal and replace. we'll be rolling out a few of the republican alternatives. right now we certainly are not going to get off the dime on repealing obamacare. >> you'll be talking about your personal biography. i know it pretty well, being an imm...

On the hill where all the action is taking place, and i think we heard a rumor you were in a meeting with dennis mcdonough the other day to talk about the going-on on capitol hill, among them immigration reform. what is the attitude among democrats in the white house about how realistic this set of principles is? and are democrats willing to accept some of this beefed-up boarder security in exchange for a plan if not to legalize undocumented workers, to give them some sort of permanent resident status in the united states? >> well, you know, democrats are ready to go on immigration and we have...

The senate did, is not going to happen. frankly, i'll make clear, we have no intention of ever going into conference on the senate bill. >> come on, congressman, we have to be fair. no one in the world has ever read this bill. how can you expect it to be brought to the floor? our friends did some math, it would only take 13 hours to read the thing. that's not that long. you could read u list ease and it would take a lot longer. ultimately, this is just an excuse for the obstruction that we've been seeing since day one in the obama administration into the newt gingrich area. >> you're right. it...

I think that if it were not for the haster excuse, right? this rule that's not really a rule in the house, we would be able to have a vote on this bill now. we have 185 democrats who have signed on to hr-15, to the immigration reform bill in the house that has a pathway to citizenship, that addresses the border security issues, et cetera, and i think that we can probably see 195 to 200 democrats on that bill. we now have 29 republicans in the house who have come out. that's over 218 votes. >> right. >> in the house. >> i want to play something for you that senator john mccain actually said abo...

Enough republicans. do you think that dynamic is in play right now on some version of the senate bill? >> yes. i think that if it were not for the haster excuse, right? this rule that's not really a rule in the house, we would be able to have a vote on this bill now. we have 185 democrats who have signed on to hr-15, to the immigration reform bill in the house that has a pathway to citizenship, that addresses the border security issues, et cetera, and i think that we can probably see 195 to 200 democrats on that bill. we now have 29 republicans in the house who have come out. that's over 218 v...