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>> i [bleep]. they are trying to kill me. you are killing me. this is not about music. i want to have a relationship with my kid and i can't do it. you don't want to believe the truth. >> i don't want just ranting at the camera. you are playing the victim. >> i am just telling the truth. howie: emily jashinsky, how did gayle king imagine this? emily: particularly well. her so -- her stoicism while hs

Her so -- her stoicism while hs ranting and just couldn't keep it in. i figured i had the best way to convince my parents i didn't do anything wrong was to scream and shout as loud as i could. howie: gayle king could have lost control of that interview and mixed it up and become part of the story. emily: and he could have left. howie: i'm struck by the image of him standing and flailing his arms and she is sitting there. emily: i think or stoicism is admirable. she kept it together to get more out of him and ask him more tough questions, rather than sending him running away.