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Him, and surely there will be some democrats now who question that decision, question the decision not to go into greater detail about what was occurring and even now, not going into greater detail about what was occurring and keeping that information classified. we had a group of senators, democratic senators write a letter to the president urging him to call for this information, to be declassified, that hasn't happened yet. >> probably not going to happen at least a lot of it, because they don't want to undermine sources and methods, how the united states collects this information electroni...

Almost a million of them here in the u.s. those are the people who respond to the individuals that are generally self-radicalized. >> so many with whom i speak say these individuals who self-radicalize, these lone wolves, you can't really find them unless and until they rear their ugly heads, but al qaeda -- on al qaeda, you can keep an eye. >> that's right. so right now there is an operational distinction that i think can be made and i think you're seeing as you pointed out a fight over the budget around this. because you can find the al qaeda types because to congregate, they have to come to...

Body of osama bin laden. i cannot imagine that any way they would have dumped that body. the operational security, the need for the dna and all of the other cultural sensitivities -- >> right. >> dictatesed an islamic burial at sea. you would have to believe that the uss vincent and its commanders absolutely lied. i know what cy has written about the ship's logs. it's understandable that mccraven would have had those logs turned over to the cia to try to forestall attempts to get at the actual information. >> yeah. the key here, i think, andrea, two things in terms of digesting this. the prese...

There was a courier to confirm that osama bin laden was there. so -- >> andrea let me ask you, was that part the fact that somebody just walked in out of the clear blue and two years before and kind of gave that information to the united states was that part of the original narrative that we were told by the government at the time? >> no and it never would be. first, it was a year before and these things are -- the reason why somebody would defect or you know trade secrets in intelligence, very personal as well. the money, whatever but the fact is that that would never have been disclosed, you...

Information, complicates a story we have been told which was again mythologized. >> except chris, they always protect human assets. >> of course. >> they would never have confirmed, then now or in the future that they had a human asset inside pakistan. >> right. >> whose safety was very much at stake. >> and then the biggest thing here is just what our relationship was with the pakistanis at the time. and there is a tremendous amount of reporting accrued, you and other people to say it was bad, there were a lot of leaks, to say we weren't cooperating. in fact, that the relationship was tremend...