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can we do now, as the factors are there, can we do a better job of educating communities about what the warning signs are and taking action before deadly violence. >> "the new york times" reports among the writings of the suspect, he said when he had that mental health evaluation, he had to wait 15 hours or something in an emergency room. and was only interviewed for 15 minutes. in a way, he was sort of bragging that he was able to get through that mental health process that might have raised a red flag had someone been able to spot correctly the warning signs that were there. i wonder how you prevent something like that? i wonder how you fix that, peter? and i also wonder how president biden is going to talk today about trying to keep guns from the mentally ill. what makes them so vulnerable to this type of message? >> well, i think that's absolutely critical to raise awareness across the board of what the threats are and what it looks like when somebody begins to self-radicalize. part of the issue is not only
identifying special forces one way or another. i told my team we need to have an interagency approach pd for testimony of failing on airport. there is further slefgs done, a go straight to detention. then there is a number that is public. the numbers that actually reach that point are relatively small. which is why -- we need to focus on dealing with what's going on in the home laland right now, te who self-radicalize. >> the president is considering declaring a national emergency with what he says is a crisis. you actually disagree on the southern border.
are we safer today than we were on september 10th, 2001? >> joe, i think the answer is yes in some respects, no in other ones. our homeland security department does a better job now ott detecting large scale plots from overseas against the homeland. our intelligence community now is able to detect in general those types of plots at theirelel earliest stag theirelel earliest stages. now we are vulnerable to smaller scale attacks and those are more challenging because they're harder to detect, they're people who self-radicalize here in the homeland. and then, of course, joe, there's cyber security. in my judgment on a day-to-day basis, cyber attacks are a
unfortunately, the ideology is primary. it always has been. it was mostly a propaganda tool. if they were to be able to defeat and knock over the government. >> kennedy: if you like the u.s. military is adept at fighting a traditional military which isis has sort of formed itself into becoming. but then it sort of turns into the ether and they going to different countries and our country and their people here, there are united states citizens who were born here who self radicalize. you think it's too soon for the trump administration to be taking credit for this defeat you back defeating and taking away 98% of the territory that isis held is pretty stunning. >> jessica: it is absolutely. i would recommend everyone to read a column in "the new york times" about this unknown perils of liberals denying the success that has gone over in iraq and syria vis-a-vis isis. i think the president surely can say something about this and that he should.
in the stomach was taken downstairs to see the medic. at that point shots rang out and a stream of people came out of the market running and screaming. we literally just push them into the basement. that was the safest place to put large runs of people at that time. >> three days later there is an attack in france. we have video of the hammer wielding man who attacked a police officer. the video went public and the person is in court. no indication they are in. they say he was self radicalize. charges roughly translated from french r attempted murder of a police officer in connection with the terrorist enterprise and conspiracy.
salman abedi? >> that his parents immigrated from lib ya that they've returned to libya. he has a brother i believe taken into custody for questions. that he was, i think beginning to self-radicalize. i think the broader question as a former prosecutor, is there a cell in place that could have been driven by isis or is this simply again a lone wolf self-radicalizing individual. but again i say, the damage and destruction was just as evil. >> what do you know about his travel, did he travel anywhere for training for example, or was he self-radicalizing online back in manchester? >> that's something we're looking at right now, social media, his travel.
33 people were here illegally on visas that had expired. and they are from all of the obvious places. yemen, pakistan, afghanistan, iraq. this is a no-brainer, eric. this is a threat that is real and already harming americans. >> have we learned nothing from germany? have we learned nothing from paris? have we learned nothing from nice, france that sometimes if you're bringing in refugees sometimes they radicalize, self-radicalize, and they become dangerous? >> certainly the obama administration hadn't learned the lessons. europe hasn't learned lessons. i look throughout europe and specifically in germany just what is not happening. i'm amazed that government aren't responding. if you're living in europe and seeing this unfold you're seeing that a gentleman has eight different names and was on a target list, but is slipping in
asylum status. 33 people were here illegally on visas that had expired. and they are from all of the obvious places. yemen, pakistan, afghanistan, iraq. this is a no-brainer, eric. this is a threat that is real and already harming americans. >> have we learned nothing from germany? have we learned nothing from paris? have we learned nothing from niece, france that sometimes if you're bringing in refugees sometimes they radicalize, self-radicalize, and they become dangerous? >> sometimes the obama administration cent hasn't learned the lessons. europe hasn't learned lessons. i look throughout europe and specifically in germany just what is not happening. i'm amazed that government aren't responding. if you're living in europe and seeing this unfold you're seeing that a gentleman has eight different names and was on a
discrimination, vilification, and isolation that american muslims face in these challenging times. now i have an ask. it is an ask of the people in this room and all muslims across this country. terrorist organizations overseas have targeted your communities. they seek to pull your youth into the pit of violent extremism. help us to help you stop this. if you see something, say something. this is more than a slogan. if you see someone turning toward violence, say something. say something to law enforcement. or to one of you in your community, or your religious leaders. when people self-radicalize, someone close to them is almost always in a position to see the
speech and one plank of it was freedom from fear. we cannot in the united states be held in hostage really or in a permanent state of fear due to islamic terrorism. and i think the president has to be a cautious, not over prom missing when he can deliver. premind us what we're doing. are our air strikes working in syria or are they not? what's the game plan? i don't think anyone knows what our strategy is in the middle east. tonight is an opportunity to articulate that. >> david gergen, on this point. does this need to be is a strategy, sort of military speech, if you will? or does this need to be a speech that addresses that but also addresses sort of muslims in this country growing anti-muslim rhetoric, the refugee debate? does he address all three or is it not object that tonight? >> i think he needs to address what's going on here at home with people who self radicalize, people who get on the internet and go over to this radical