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Either side, frankly, when you have nothing to negotiate from a page perspective, you can't see, you can't negotiate it. i don't support that. i voted no. and i'm skeptical on what the democrats are actually planning to do, not with just the 1.2, but with the 3.5 that is fused together. that's just enormous spending and inflation is already a tax increase on people making much less than $400,000. it's a tax increase on people working paycheck to paycheck. this is a bad decision. >> let me ask you this. there was discussion from the president that he initially said i only want the infrastructur...

Should be, you may not get the human infrastructure side of things, the child care, the elder care. what are republicans saying? they are saying we don't want one bill contingent upon the other. >> yeah, look, there are certainly republicans who do not want one bill tied to the other. what i will say though is from the outset, the handful of gop senators who are negotiating the bipartisan infrastructure deal were well aware that president biden -- that this white house always intended to have a two tier track. there were no secrets about that. what i will say is that there are certainly politi...

In four days but this is remarkable that we're actually here talking about it now. >> if democrats were to go at it alone, does the president have confidence he can get his entire party on the same page, especially on the human infrastructure side? >> that's part of the work democrats have to do and they're doing it behind the scenes, massaging their members on the issues, while the bipartisan talks move forward. part of the reason they're doing this talk is show their members they tried. perhaps they work out. if they don't work out and do fall apart, they can go back to senator john manchin ...