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Of weeks? i mean, given that, like you said, we had seven weeks and we couldn't get a deal, why will two more weeks in january be any different? governor dean? >> because everybody's taxes are going up and the pressure is going to be on the republicans to do something. i am fearful they will do something. this is where ed and i disagree. i think the fix the debt is fine and good but the ceos that are backing it will be the ones that primarily benefit. this is a bipartisan deal that was put together in august of 2011 so we could raise the debt ceiling. this deal is a great deal if you're a demo...

They would finally get the defense cuts that they have been clamoring for and it would actually serve their purposes. i dismiss that. >> to be fair, we have even had some republicans who have said that that they want. members of the tea party don't want to have anything to do with -- they want us to go into default. they want us to face these problems. howard dean on the democratic side saying, look, if we don't do it, we have got this other plan and he talks about the fiscal cliff to what alisyn was just saying. listen. >> as you know, i believe the country would be better off if would get an...

Votes and you don't. it would not entirely surprise me to see eric cantor or kevin mccarthy, who've been waiting in the wings, kind of gently stack the speaker in the back for a couple years, to make their move after the new session starts. the fiscal cliff, as you know, i believe the country would be better off if we went over the fiscal cliff. we would get enough revenues to be serious about balancing the budget. we'd get some defense cuts, which congress will never vote for otherwise. we will get some human services cuts, which i don't like, but you know, we're in a deep hole here and every...

You can't do. you can't have your budget overridden, as governors know, and you can't have a major initiative like this go down when you think you have the votes and you don't. it would not entirely surprise me to see eric cantor or kevin mccarthy, who've been waiting in the wings, kind of gently stack the speaker in the back for a couple years, to make their move after the new session starts. the fiscal cliff, as you know, i believe the country would be better off if we went over the fiscal cliff. we would get enough revenues to be serious about balancing the budget. we'd get some defense cut...

Overridden, as governors know, and you can't have a major initiative like this go down when you think you have the votes and you don't. it would not entirely surprise me to see eric cantor or kevin mccarthy, who've been waiting in the wings, kind of gently stack the speaker in the back for a couple years, to make their move after the new session starts. the fiscal cliff, as you know, i believe the country would be better off if we went over the fiscal cliff. we would get enough revenues to be serious about balancing the budget. we'd get some defense cuts, which congress will never vote for oth...