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Because that assumption is itself racist. so to get beyond this morass you need to acknowledge that human sin is universal, and that people aren't responsible for the actions of people who happen to look like them, because that's collective punishment, collective guilt, and it's wrong, right? >> again, tucker, i think you have inferred more from this than i think starbucks is actually saying. >> oh, no, i haven't. come on, professor. let's not be disingenuous. i'm not inferring anything. i'm listening carefully to what i'm being told. >> okay. but there's antiblack racism. when we're addressin...

Racism because that assumption is itself racist. to get beyond this morass that human sin is universal and people aren't responsible for the actions of people who happened to look like them. and it's wrong, right? >> you have inferred more from this than i think starbucks is actually saying. >> tucker: no i haven't, let's not be disingenuous. i'm not inferring anything. i'm listening carefully to what i'm being told. >> okay, there is antiblack racism and when we are addressing that, sometimes that can come from anybody of any background. what we are trying to do is address some of the issues ...

Because that assumption is itself racist. so to get beyond this morass you need to acknowledge that human sin is universal, and that people aren't responsible for the actions of people who happen to look like them, because that's collective punishment, collective guilt, and it's wrong, right? >> again, tucker, i think you have inferred more from this than i think starbucks is actually saying. >> oh, no, i haven't. come on, professor. let's not be disingenuous. i'm not inferring anything. i'm listening carefully to what i'm being told. >> okay. but there's antiblack racism. when we're addressin...

Ended up committing more crimes or creating more victims, but becoming members of their community. >> tucker: i don't believe that. i wrote a book on this one. those numbers are so -- that would be the most effective rehabilitation program in the history of the world. if that's really true, then it should be replicated everywhere. >> the numbers under sb 260 and 261, and happy to share with you the data that both conservatives and progressives have -- >> tucker: if that's true, you just solve the age-old question of human sin. i hope you did. [laughs] mayor sloan, thanks for joining us, i appr...

>> tucker: i don't believe that. i wrote a book on this one. those numbers are so -- that would be the most effectivey. rehabilitation program in the history of the world. if that's really true, then itu should be replicated everywhere. >> happy to show you the numbers for the folks who came home >> the numbers under sb 260 and 261, i'm happy to share with you the data that both conservatives and progressives have -- >> tucker: if that's true, you just solved the age-old question of human sin. i hope you did. [laughs] mayor sloan, thanks for joining us, i appreciate it. the fbi says it won't r...