Energy at home but no one wants a windmill in their front yard or oil well in the backyard. we're not committed to the energy and dependence because we don't want to give up some of the things we've got plus we know this is a plan we cannot only afforded to -- cannot afford today, we'll be paying for in years in the future. by the time we reap the benefits, we're going to be gone. >> neil: what do you think of the space program right now? >> what is the -- >> neil: what do you think of the space program right now, while i have you here. >> well, if the president's man goes through, as he has e...