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Way it goes. al franken is here in studio with us. senator franken, i know that you're a hillary clinton supporter, so therefore you cannot be objective as to how she did comedically compared to her political opponent. >> that's right. i can't be objective. one thing i did notice is that trump got the memo to smile and he smiled and then actually -- but he didn't laugh. remember, we were going to look for that. see him do that human thing that human beings do, which is laugh at things. but giuliani didn't get the memo. >> no. no. >> and that's a moment that should be replayed, i think. because...

I can't be objective. one thing i did notice is that trump got the memo to smile and he smiled and then actually -- but he didn't laugh. remember, we were going to look for that. see him do that human thing that human beings do, which is laugh at things. but giuliani didn't get the memo. >> no. no. >> and that's a moment that should be replayed, i think. because every -- these are events where everyone takes -- it's like a roast. like a mild roast. and i thought that -- she had one joke that i thought was -- remember i criticized trump for not having any joke work. she did a couple of those th...

Humility on the part of christians when you say there's a good us and a bad them. it's not a muslim or a christian thing. it's a human thing. i feel like with that, there should be some kind of understanding and a graciousness towards each other knowing we're all trying to do the best that we can. >> high bar when people deal with fear and anxiety and terror. what do you think needs to happen in terms of bridging this gap what is about faith and what is a perversion of faith? >> no matter what faith you come from, you can find historical examples of your faith being perverted and turned evil, ...

They're different. >> the line between good and evil doesn't run through religions. doesn't run between religions or nation states but through every single human heart and i think that there will be a can be a lack of humility on the part of christians when we say well there is a good us and a bad them. and to me that is a lack of self awareness about the reality of sin in our own hearts and it is not a christian thing or a muslim thing it is a human thing. and there should be a graciousness knowing that we're all just trying to do the best that we can. >> high bar when dealing with fear and a...

>> pretty remarkable moment we've seen from pre-packaged, focus group, poll-tested campaign, where suddenly, they talk about this and mart mckennen, it's the best thing they can do is talk about the struggles that i guarantee when jeb bush was talking about his daughter, one of my best friends -- >> that wasn't easy. >> one of my best friends died, and he died because he was overprescribed. >> they want so to see humanity. vulnerability is a very human thing. and people want to be able to relate to the candidates and know they've gone through similar issues that everybody's gone through with f...