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to keep russians out. my guest today is the president of finland, sauli niinisto. mr president, finland hasjust made a major strategic shift. thank you. this country is now prepared to join nato. how big a deal is that? cold war ended, that's beginning of �*90s, we have all the time developed our interoperability with nato, our armament is, well, quite modern, usa—based mostly. so, in a way, we have been very prepared all the time. but the change is, like you said, remarkable. it's remarkable because public opinion has moved so far so fast. just a year ago, polls suggested that 2...

was on the "highway to climate hell" with no sign of slowing down — and that humanity needed to "co—operate or perish". now on bbc news, it's hardtalk with stephen sackur. welcome to hardtalk from helsinki. i'm stephen sackur. when vladimir putin launched his invasion of ukraine, he probably didn't consider the impact it would have on another neighbour, finland, but maybe he should have, because after decades of pragmatic coexistence, finland has made a big strategic decision to join nato, to send weapons to kyiv, and to build a big fence along the border with russia to keep russ...

my guest today is the president of finland, sauli niinisto. do finns now see russia as the enemy nextdoor? president sauli niinisto, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. mr president, finland hasjust made a major strategic shift. this country is now prepared to join nato. how big a deal is that? it is, but if you look back at the time before the cold war ended, that is the beginning of the 90s, we have all the time developed our interoperability with nato. our armament is, well, quite modern, us—based, mostly. so, in a way, we have been very prepared all the time. but the changes, like ...

while attempting to land in stormy weather. authorities say more than 20 people survived the crash, and were taken to hospital. now on bbc news, it's hardtalk with stephen sackur. welcome to hardtalk from helsinki. i'm stephen sackur. when vladimir putin launched his invasion of ukraine, he probably didn't consider the impact it would have on another neighbour, finland, but maybe he should have, because after decades of pragmatic coexistence, finland has made a big strategic decision to join nato, to send weapons to kyiv, and to build a big fence along the border with russia to keep ...

Crossing the border, asking for asylum and... you mean weaponising the migration issue? in a way. a human weapon. and you fear that for the future? we are prepared for that too. let me ask you this. but if i continue. and i still see that we have to be pragmatic in certain issues, like maritime. in the gulf of finland, there is a lot of traffic. and finland, estonia, russia are controlling that together. these kind of things. but you bring me to a very important point, mr president. you have this long border with a very powerful neighbour. russia has significant leverage it can use against fin...