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The united states has at the ready to essentially destroy the regime if they persist, if they continue these acts of defiance firing missiles, testing nuclear devic devices, yet they have still ton it. the north has still done it apparently today. the confirmation we have so far is only from the japanese side that they have concluded that this was a nuclear test. the u.s. geological survey said they have massive seismic events, one connected to the other, that happened in close proximity to each other. they have not yet said it was a nuclear or hydrogen test of any sort. however, we have been ...

I tweeted -- [ no audio ] >> dr. terry, if you can hear me, it sounds like your cell signal is a little raspy. i don't know if you can move to another location where you are at right now so we can get better -- we'd really like to get your perspective, being a former analyst for the cia. dr. sumi terry is on the phone right now. sounds like we have some technical issues. >> hello? >> yes, dr. terry, i can hear you. if you move to a different place, and i'll tell you if the signal is good or if it gets bad i'll ask if you can still hear. this is much better. >> this labor day weekend, i'm away ...

Tested. dr. sumi teri is a former analyst with the cia. doctor, what do you make of the information, the latest piece is coming out of the announcement from the north korean government that, yes, they were able to successfully test a hydrogen bomb. they've made this claim before but it was not verified. >> well, i would not be vised if they did. but it could also be an exaggeration, it could be a normal nuclear test. either way, if it's not a hydrogen test, they will get there very soon. in terms of options, we have the same limited options. north korea is bent on completing a nuclear program,...

These claims before. whether it is or not, north korea is getting there. so in terms of options the u.s. government has, same limited options in response to this latest provocation. north korea is bent on completing the nuclear program, bent on completing its nuclear arsenal. if it's not a hydrogen test this time, they will get there very soon. >> what's driving kim jong-un? is he at a heightened stage in interest in reaching this goal that you're describing? or is it his generals? >> it is absolutely him. i think even one of the high high ranking north korean defectors who defected to south k...

Gordon chang, author of "north korea takes on the world." and congressman turner. thank you for joining us, gentlemen. the view of the u.s. was that this was not a hydrogen bomb. you still say this pose as direct threat to the united states. why? >> absolutely. whether this is a hydrogen test or a nuclear test, this would be the third test that north korea has undertaken during president obama's presidency. the president has stated that he had a goal entering his two terms here that we would have a world without nuclear weapons yet this is not on the to-do list of the administration. i wrote a...