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Need for nato, also pushed nato members to spend more on the joint defense. without even getting into, first, impeachment and the so-called perfect phone call with zelenskyy, he said the other day there would be no nato if i didn't act strongly and swiftly. a lot of people were puzzled by that. >> well, look, i mean, i think it's pretty clear that nato exists the way it does today because of the relationships that donald trump was able to broker and build while he was president of the united states. in fact, it was general stoltenberg in private with us at many breakfasts and lunches that woul...

Talking about former miss universe, about how he had inappropriately done things, inappropriately talked to them. that was what got these two women to come forward and then contact my colleagues. so some of this, yes, the election is coming closer. this is idea that these women felt like they were empowered to tell their story because they heard other women's stories. that's what's going on. if you read the accounts, these women watched the debate. they watched donald trump say, i didn't act on these words that you read. that i never kissed any woman inappropriately. one woman told the times t...

Was suspended for three games for gay slur written in spanish in the grease under his eyes. he apologized as well. it explains why no player in any the four major male professional sports in the u.s. has ever come out while playing. did you ever consider coming out while you were a player? >> no. not while i was playing. i didn't see those two things as being compatible. but now when i look back in hindsight, if i could have done it differently, i would have liked to think i would have found the strength or find the fortitude or the grace to kind of make the hard decision. >> reporter: for har...

>> reporter: the last closet is an organization to encourage the end of homophobia in male pro sports. >> have to look back to jackie robinson's days when he came into baseball. he had problem but it was the management that took care of him and made it okay. >> reporter: for many players it's a nonissue. >> we'll treat him just like we treat everybody else, every other teammate with love and fairness and kindness and compassion because we know it's going to be a tough burden on that person. >> reporter: for harris, the burden almost became too much to bear. >> you want to escape the despair, t...

Fortitude or the grace to kind of make the hard decision. >> reporter: for harris, the burden almost became too much to bear. >> you want to escape the turmoil and your mind goes to dark places sometimes. but i would just say that i -- i'm happy today. i'm glad that, you know, i didn't actually -- but those are just ideas and i didn't act on any of those things. and that, you know, it does get better. >> reporter: you haven't spoken about this to any media at all. so why now? >> i want people, you know, whether they're gay athletes or athletes still in the closet or youth who aren't quite sure...