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Jonathan, i don't think progress rolls of its own accord. yolk the arc of justice bends. we're asking people to rally. at the state capital, we might want to follow stacey abrams lead and call our senators, call the president for that matt effort. let them know this is an existential priority for our country. if we don't get it right, in states like texas you will not have free and fair elections going forward. the last election bill would allow the state of texas overturn elections simply based on the allegation of fraud. the for the people act is all that stands between us and that conclusio...

Paying money to lower-income people. i think that is sort of being sugar coated. we have, i think, have to wrap our minds around the fact if we're going to take care of everyone around this country there's going to have to be higher taxes on well to do people. >> the problem is if you look at the senate bill it's not scheduled to take place until 2014. the house bill isn't going to go into effect until 2013. in that time over 45,000 americans are going to die each year because they're uninsured. the number of medical-related bankruptcy going to increase by over 50%. a lot of people are going t...

>> larry: dr. song, what did you think of today? >> the problem is if you look at the senate bill it's not scheduled to take place until 2014. the house bill isn't going to go into effect until 2013. in that time over 45,000 americans are going to die each year because they're uninsured. the number of medical-related bankruptcy going to increase by over 50%. a lot of people are going to be suffering and lost during this time that we're debating over actual reform. >> larry: dr. healy, do you think progress was made today? >> i don't think progress was made today. i think there was a clearer de...