Healthier, if a parent is modeling using any substance, it's going to affect that child and how early their use begins and how they use it for stress control. >> unfortunately, i couldn't agree more so i don't know where the controversy is. i will say that i think th that -- can i continue? >> we will lose you guys because we're running out of satellite time. we would love to talk more but we have to do it. thank you very much. to be continued. he's accused of killing 19 people while heading up the british -- excuse me, irish mob in boston. whi whiteby bulger. next, we'll hear from a former ...