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Peninsula. there's no precise attack that can take place, no antiseptic engagement. military engagement will have a significant cost for the people in seoul. i think we should move forward and acknowledge that north korea has an operational nuclear capability, nukes that are embedded on the top of missiles, and that they now have annic -- icbm capability. we have to assume as an intelligence guy, i'm going to have to assume it has a nuke on the top of it. if we make that assumption, then we're going to take every one of his missiles out as a result of deployment of our thaad system, which is n...

He's not going to do that. he will be the one that blinks. he will not launch any missiles simultaneously or anything that would be threatening to guam. that won't occur. if he did that, we would have to take those out, and then the ball is in our court in terms of what we do next. my suggestion is, as i've said, let's assume that's nuclear, provocative, let's assume his intention was to wipe us out. hey, man, you cannot afford to do that. the thing about a nuclear capability is you now have to self-modulate, moderate your behavior. over the seven decades, the kim regime has been getting away ...

Mean we take them down in flat, they're not inert, they land in the ocean and then we have a real decision to make relative to north korea and his capabilities. if he's launching those and we assume they're nukes, he's done. >> what do you mean, he's done? what happens then? we then attack pyongyang? >> we would have to. jeffrey, we have no option. if we have the assumption -- >> before he's used any weapons on a population center, we attack pyongyang? >> if he's launching missiles and we make the assumption that those are nuclear tipped -- we have to marry up that assumption. we can't wak for...

My tongue is in my cheek here. you have fire, fury, pestilence, flood and leprosy. frankly what we have is the president of the united states doubling down to ensure that north korea understands that we mean business, but i think what's most important, as we have stated many times before, that the recipients are the message are the citizens about, the government in seoul, tokyo, certainly beijing. seoul understands the incredible cost to be paid if there's any type of an engagement on the peninsula. there's no precise attack that can take place, no antiseptic kind of engagement. military engag...

If we have the assumption -- >> before he's used any weapons on a population center, we attack pyongyang? >> if he's launching missiles and we make the assumption that those are nuclear tipped -- we have to marry up that assumption. we can't walk forward and say look, he's got a nuclear capability, ergo, when he uses it, we're going to kind of very, um, calmly witness where it goes and follow the pattern that we have in the past, which is simply to acknowledge that they're launching missiles. if we give them, we acknowledge that they have a nuclear capability, kim and his regime are now at the...