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That's what that amounts to. the pension deal, you know is really -- the other thing he didn't mention there, he holds this up. this big -- he -- forcing state employees to contribute more in health care, saves the state a lot of money and holds this up as a bipartisan triumph because there is a democratic legislature in new jersey. the key to making that deal work is an alliance christie has with two conservative democratic boss necessary the state of new jersey. bosses, one is a friend of donald drum whose politics would not be recognizable in the national democratic party. they control vote...

Financial hit to make this deal work so they could get back to work under the government loan. sort that out for us. >> you know the fact is the bail outs of the auto industry did work. the fact is big labor came to the table with management, negotiated in good faith, they led their way out of this thing, they are paying the american people back, some paid them back, some are right on schedule and so it created thousands and thousands of jobs and that is a good thing, saving the american auto industry. that is like saying that apple pie is a bad, bad thing. so i don't understand mitt romney an...

So use this system to basically make a lot of money but not create any wealth for the country. he knows what he's doing here politically. >> this is a political play. you asked if it is fair game. i suppose it is. it's not fair in the sense that you can't judge the free market system or one person's career in that free market system by a very small slice of it. you can't take a few people, talk to them and say do you like this guy or don't like this guy? did this deal work or not work? i'm not here to defend bain. bain is looked at as a respected company that has grown value for their investor...

Country. he knows what he's doing here politically. >> this is a political play. you asked if it is fair game. i suppose it is. it's not fair in the sense that you can't judge the free market system or one person's career in that free market system by a very small slice of it. you can't take a few people, talk to them and say do you like this guy or don't like this guy? did this deal work or not work? i'm not here to defend bain. bain is looked at as a respected company that has grown value for their investors and their investors are people like teachers pensions, firefighters pensions, univer...

Collar argument. we believe in free enterprise, we didn't like people who are basically bandits who use the system, they make a lot of money, but not create any wealth for the country. he knows what he's doing here politically. >> this is a political play. and you asked me is it fair game, and i suppose it is, but it's not fair in the sense that you conditions judge the free market system or one person's career in that free market system by a very small slice of it. you can't take a few people talking to him saying you like this guy or don't like this guy, did this deal work or not work, you h...