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When he said nothing is more dangerous in all the world than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. i mean, i think the thing -- i spoke up for tillerson, because at least tillerson had been around the world and knew people as a businessman. i didn't agree with him. but he was knowledgeable. i think that bolton has been an idealogue who is not known to speak to people. he is in his own little world. looking at north korea -- i got back from south korea from south korea a few months ago. and you can stay in the trump towers and you can see north korea. everything is so close up there, t...

Things that move his presidency forward and just every time he starts to think about mueller. quit thinking about him and go back to the presidency. >> martha: i would like you to listen to this from john brennan who tweete tweeted this former head of the cia and director as well. when the fullest extent talking about trump here of ventriclalitventriclev your thoughts on that, sir? >> well, just one more reminder of how brennan was a left wing idealogue who obama put in the position he shouldn't have been in. the fact is that brennan has always been, i think, an outlier in the intelligence com...

Sessions, we have a disaster times ten compared to thome. you are knocking everyone down on what appears to be destruction. we have so much turmoil. we have seen nothing get done. we just talked about, what do we do against russia moving forward? there is no plan. i think jason is right. the idealogue pursuing his agenda makes me very nervous. >> you have a special counsel examining trump's apparent efforts to oust session. people telling the post a key area of interest is one of those efforts. >> for those horrified by jeff session's entire world view, he seems to be the thing, he and rod ros...

Years. but he is in fact a very conservative idealogue. he is much more in line with trump's world view and his approach to policy handle the i think outsiders believe. >> i did not mean to say you're hanging with all these people in your social circle. >> i know. >> michael, as we say every so often on this broadcast, robert mueller went to work today. and he is going to work tomorrow. and while all of this continues, so, too, does the mueller investigation. any way you can bring us up to speed on your knowledge of the status of said investigation? >> i guess you've got two big issues hanging...

General kelly. are people in your world and orbit surprised at the idealogue that has emerged from this career military man? >> that's a good question. by my orbit i think you mean the trump white house. that's not my orbit, but it's the orbit that i cover and try to understand every day. and kelly, people who didn't know john kelly before he took this job assumed he was a more moderating influence because he's been a career military officer and has been part of the establishment of the united states government for so many years. but he is in fact a very conservative idealogue. he has very str...