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The chair of the finance committee, arguably the most powerful committee in the senate. the finance committee, quote, helps dictate how the government raises almost all of its money and spends nearly half of it. the other quality that makes max baucus such a ripe target for lobbying and people with an in to him so valuable is he is not an idealogue. say what you want he is in the center kind of. there is a tool political scientists use to score where lawmakers land on the left/right spectrum. with senators ranked in the 112 itth congress with number one being most liberal baucus landed at 45. ...

Committee, arguably the most powerful committee in the senate. the finance committee, quote, helps dictate how the government raises almost all of its money and spends nearly half of it. the other quality that makes max baucus such a ripe target for lobbying and people with an in to him so valuable is he is not an idealogue. say what you want he is in the center kind of. there is a tool political scientists use to score where lawmakers land on the left/right spectrum. with senators ranked in the 112 itth congress with number one being most liberal baucus landed at 45. only a handful of democra...

Texas karl rove. do you know barney frank? >> yes. >> can you. >> one unpleasant person. >> bill: can you explain this to me? i know frank, but i think that -- i dislike him so much that my judgment may be clouded here. >> yeah. well, look, is he an idealogue and he is hyper partisan. so in a moment of national calamity his first incorporate distinct is not a conscience one. i just think it's how he operates is to try to find some way to say conservatives and republicans are bad and democrats and big government democrats are good. so, the first thing he says is a tax wouldn't have saved us fro...

Texas karl rove. do you know barney frank? >> yes. >> can you. >> one unpleasant person. >> bill: can you explain this to me? i know frank, but i think that -- i dislike him so much that my judgment may be clouded here. >> yeah. well, look, is he an idealogue and he is hyper partisan. so in a moment of national calamity his first incorporate distinct is not a conscience one. i just think it's how he operates is to try to find some way to say conservatives and republicans are bad and democrats and big government democrats are good. so, the first thing he says is a tax wouldn't have saved us fro...

>> bill: the point i made to ms. megyn was that the criticism about the thumping the bible is power-based thee thought it was personal. it's not personal. if i wasn't successful in what i do, nobody would care what i said. >> that's absolutely true. >> bill: this is the left wing and right wing idealogues trying to diminish the power of this program and the power of this network. all right? that's what it is about. people should be very clear on that. >>. no the right wing and the left wing are different in this sense. i know exactly why the right wing idealogues, no offense, bill, but i know ...