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Whether they agree or not. so this is a potentially powerful fellow. what are the democrats thinking? kill him quick. >> andrea: the prove that, obama camp senior advisor david axelrod yesterday. >> it is, you know, it's a pick that is meant to thrill the most strident voices in the republican party, but it's one that should trouble everybody else, the middle class, seniors, students, you know, because of ryan's record. he is a right wing idealogue. >> andrea: we heard axelrod echo the president saying right wing idealogue. >> dana: the most poll-tested word they have. they figure it out, what...

Go at him, saying call him a right wing idealogue. he wants to throw grandma off the cliff. there will be another ad, if it's not out already, another grandma over the cliff. let the campaign attack paul ryan and president obama sits back to go i'm the good cop. let them be the bad cop. >> bob: i haven't had a chance to talk about this. he's a right wing idealogue. nice guy but idealogue. cutting the student aid program. go through the ryan's plan, also romney's plan for the most part, and what it will do, we will pick up constituency after constituency. moved so far to the right. ryan is nice...

President. lot of support. >> steve: absolutely. the president of the united states in his hometown of chicago, he had a $51 a head fund-raiser in chicago. but only half a crowd apparently. jody cantor of the "new york times" tweeted, at obama fund-raiser in chicago. admission only $51. but room is half full. the romney team retreated, the thrill is gone. >> eric: i have a lunch the paul ryan pick will invigorate the base. a lot of people were waiting to see who they picked. >> ainsley: some things need to change. he's not happy with congress of the he called congress last night dysfunctional....

Forward. here is the reason that doesn't matter is because mitt romney is not going to run on the paul ryan plan. mitt romney is going to run on his five-point plan, which we've been telling about. >> eric: one more quickly. david axelrod was on the weekend talk circuit and he said, he called paul ryan a right wing ideal log. i saw one great view with george stephanopoulos, he said it three times and called for ryan -- called ryan the prescription for economic catastrophe. you're right. they're trying to define ryan before mitt romney gets a chance to introduce paul ryan. >> steve: what's the ...

Idealogue in the best sense of the term. he is motivated by ideas and knows what he he believes and why. but he is not blinkered, he is an explainer and a per sward joining us now with reaction is michelle with the daily news. >> good morning. >> what do you think this will brung to the republic party two weeks ahead of the rnc in tampa and just as we are reporting. the biggest slide for mitt romney nine points behind president obama right now. >> this is really going to energize them. i think that this gives mitt romney a little street tread amongst conservatives who weren't complete-on board...