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And i mean, i don't know if you can talk about the issues he was facing. a number of things he was alleged to have done in his past. what kind of a guy was he? did he have, in your opinion, emotional problems? family concern that he had some mental issues? >> well, when i first met him, the first thing i noticed was his vehicle. at the time he had another vehicle and it was plastered full of indian materials, regalia, paintings, all on the exterior. i saw that as strange. most people don't drive around with plastered vehicles. and i recall a pulled down scrap book and he immediately wanted to ...

Most people don't drive away with plastered vehicles and he pulled out oo scrap book and immediately wanted to show me newspaper clippings, photographs of him with this exotic dancer or wrestler or him body building and i recognized quick that he suffered certainly from an identification issue. he needed people to be impressed with him. issues off insecurity. i then began to realize that he had what i considered a lesser iq, substantial emotional problems. he was like a 14 year old in an adult's body. >> do you know why he all of a sudden -- i don't know if politically active is the right word...

And i recall a pulled down scrap book and he immediately wanted to show me newspaper clippings, photographs of him with this exotic dancer or wrestler or him body building. and i recognized very quickly that he suffered from certainly an identification issue as to who he was. he needed people to be impressed with him. he had issues of insecurity. i then began to realize that he had what i considered a lesser iq, substantial emotional problems. he was like a 14-year-old in an adult's body. and the kind of arrests that he had were reflective of that. from steroid possession, which he used in ord...

Never driven before never had a driver's license in another country and i think that's unlukely. we have people who are legal u.s. citizens who get into accidents. just because you take a test doesn't make you an extremely safe driver. that's just not the case. >> and also the issue of insurance and getting into an accident with someone, you know who doesn't have insurance. and of course i think the most serious issue the identification issue as you alluded to in the beginning. fo for most of us, if you want to have a passport, you have to have six points of identification, a birth certificate...

Never driven before never had a driver's license in another country and i think that's unlukely. we have people who are legal u.s. citizens who get into accidents. just because you take a test doesn't make you an extremely safe driver. that's just not the case. >> and also the issue of insurance and getting into an accident with someone, you know who doesn't have insurance. and of course i think the most serious issue the identification issue as you alluded to in the beginning. fo for most of us, if you want to have a passport, you have to have six points of identification, a birth certificate...