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To find and follow the couriers. that was a hypothesis with which we went into this four years ago or so. >> so this is classic human intelligence? you had people on the ground. they talked to people. they developed relationships. is that right? >> it is. but it also came out of detainee interrogations. one of the more prominent leads we had at the beginning of the exercise was partial identity information that came out of detainees that we were holding in our so-called black sites, and then from that point we used all the tools of intelligence. i can't go into detail, but it was signals intel...

Director of the central intelligence agency in 2007. when a team comes in and says we think we need to focus on the couriers, we have a name that we took under redigs to black sites and interrogated using enhanced interrogation techniques and we think we have a lead and we want to follow it through. yesterday on scott hapb on's radio program in north dakota mike hayden said the original lead information, and frankly it was incomplete identity information on the cure yores ys bee came from detainees at the back site. was this information obtained through advanced interrogation techniques? hayde...