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Mrs. bush, george w. bush, see the significance of the picture. this time, french and american presidents will not be there. most european leaders in fact will not be there including russian leader, german leader, she will be laying a wreath on sunday the day after the parade, she will be in moscow to lay a wreath. now, we are joined on the line by igor suchakin, senior research fellow in russian studies at united royal services institute. hope you were listening to matthew. talking what this means for average russians? a day of remembrance for them. the enormous bloodshed. we cannot escape po...

And, now -- that neglect is passing. and the russian armed forces hopefully in the near future will get it, not that bad politically. because it is terrible that the russian leaders here, and armed force forces. [ indiscernible ] >> we'll have to leave it there, igor, i am afraid. igor sutyagin. thank you for your insights there. as we watch the, the victory day parade under way. the perfectly aligned ranks of the russian military. showing indeed their military might. expect to see some -- 16,500 military personnel on parade in moscow. 200 armored vehicles.