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Know who he was sitting down with and brings paul manafort and jared kushner in, all i would assume have a lot of stuff to do? >> absolutely. don, jr. is someone who has been successful in business. he's not someone who has been a traditional political operative. so someone says they have information about your opponent, of course you're going to grab someone else. the reality is there weren't a bunch of junior staffers or other people. so he probably grabbed whoever the closest folks were to him and pulled them in. so the most honest answer is the most direct and straightforward one. >> it's ...

>> donald trump wasn't soliciting. >> he accepted a meeting. >> what was the solicitation? >> he showed up at the meeting and asked for the information -- >> no, that's -- now you're changing it. he didn't solicit anything. >> showing up -- >> how do we know? we have no actual fact. [ overlapping speakers ] we don't know who solicited what. this is all from a statement of donald trump, jr. >> so brian can't say that he was soliciting, and therefore it was breaking some law when he wasn't soliciting. none of us were there. >> why was he at the meeting? because he thought that the lawyer was goi...

When you issue a first statement and then you have to correct the statement with a second statement, you believe the credibility is iron clad there? >> i've read both statements and i don't see they're inconsistent. certainly the facts are additional in the second one about the opposition research that was being offered. >> if i told you i had a meeting with someone about adoption in russia, and then it turns out it was about dirt on hillary clinton and sanctions, i mean, i -- >> listen, anderson, i'm not suggesting this looks good. but we heard from the music producer who was in the meeting, ...

And then you have to correct the statement with a second statement, you believe the credibility is iron clad there? >> i've read both statements and i don't see they're inconsistent. certainly the facts are additional in the second one about the opposition research that was being offered. >> if i told you i had a meeting with someone about adoption in russia, and then it turns out it was about dirt on hillary clinton and sanctions, i mean, i -- >> listen, anderson, i'm not suggesting this looks good. but we heard from the music producer who was in the meeting, as well. he corroborates the subs...

[ overlapping speakers ] we don't know who solicited what. this is all from a statement of donald trump, jr. >> so brian can't say that he was soliciting, and therefore it was breaking some law when he wasn't soliciting. none of us were there. >> why was he at the meeting? because he thought that the lawyer was going to proffer some information that's correct ben -- benefit the trump campaign. >> and there was nothing. >> he showed up because he had been promised dirt on hillary clinton, and he showed up in order to be in receipt of it and he brought his brother-in-law and the chairman of the ...