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By the way, there's one question that would help us solve this issue did people really think this was a false negative. when did president trump actually get monoclonal antibodies. because for somebody his age older, who is the president, if he tested positive and his medical team really believed he tested positive, they would have given mihm hymn monoclonal antibodies on september 26th or shortly thereafter. we know he got those antibodies, but we don't know when. i think finding out that question will really help us to understand did his medical team and the president really think he had cov...

Reported, as i mentioned, in the book, meadows says he told people in the former president's circle, quote, sorry, he told people in the former president's, quote, immediate circle, to treat him as if he were positive, end quote. even after the negative test, which obviously doesn't -- it doesn't seem to square with what meadows is now saying, no, he got a negative test or two negative tests, and so he was totally fine. if he's telling people, treat this guy like he's positive, what does it say about the then first family going maskless at the debate and also, i mean, with gold star families, ...

This kim the younger kim john un can't control things or run the place who can? >> well, shep, first of all, he is going to be dependent on a group of powerful generals within the north korean military which has taken more and more power over the last few years under kim jong il. and then a couple of very powerful individuals. one of those is kim jong il's sister. take a look at at this issue 'of her. the woman in the middle of the front row. very powerful. along with her is her husband jang song tek. those two may be the real power brokers in the real north korea, listen. >> both of them have...