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>> the american people will hear directly from them. what do you think about that? do you think that will change when people get to actually see it? >> it certainly helps to diffuse the republican talking point. even if it's in the context of impeaching donald trump, it's a lost opportunity because when we're talking about donald trump we're losing even when it's talking about impeaching him. >> the president's supporters seem to be with him no matter what. >> yeah, well, what i've been saying is, look, the thousandth verification that donald trump is donald trump is not going to change a lot ...

>> neil: you don't think he should care? >> if he cared about anything, nothing would get done. this is why people like him. this is why america will reelect him again. he's different. he doesn't care. >> neil: i understand where you're coming from. but the appearance at a time that he's ripping joe biden and the hunter biden relationship and appearances count for something. none about the legalities here. don't you think it looks bad? >> maybe it does to the democrats already in the process of impeaching him -- mulvaney has shown the president is not benefitting. they're doing this at cost. >...

>> this is incredible an incree marketing opportunity. they should be selling the rights to a streaming service, charging admission, and then adding popcorn. this is entertainment. this is not actual politics. we are not sure if this is an impeachment investigation. it is simply there to prove to the far left democratic base that the left will get around to impeaching donald trump. >> bret: here is lewandowski with the back and forth about impeaching him. >> i ask that you would judge him in contempt in these proceedings. >> mr. lewandowski, when you refused to answer these questions, you are ...

The lifetime achievement awards ceremony is quickly erupted with people holding "impeach now" signs. >> impeach now! >> do you support an impeachment inquiry now? >> we need to nail him to his own particular cross. and send him out. by impeaching him. >> when last we talked, you were not committal. so i am now asking you where do you stand now about joining members of your caucus, or are you going to just continue to wait? >> that's a little bit of what members of congress and presidential candidates heard from constituents and voters over the summer. now that lawmakers are back in washington,...

Like? being impeached. you know, it's really not a good thing and the idea that this would be some gift to donald trump by impeaching him, making him one of three mr. presidepre be impeached. i don't think that's a good thing for his re-election. it is true it might motivate the base. the idea that wane e any of us can predict with precision what the political impact is of an impeachment. you know, i'm there, you know, i agree that the senate is not going to produce 67 votes. but the idea that this would somehow help donald trump get re-elected. i don't think anyone knows that for sure. >> tha...