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Say about the four democratic congresswomen. he did not shut down the chants of "send her home" that echoed his racist tweet over the weekend. he could have shut it down. he didn't. and the president himself out on the south lawn today said he thought it was working and said that he had no regrets, that he was happy with it. and i think that a key moment in his remarks that gets at why this matters for him is that he said look at that vote yesterday that the house took, 187 republicans stayed with him, only 4 republicans crossed. and he's consolidated the republican party. he's running for pre...

George bush, bill clinton, anyone else having done anything of the things dealing with obstruction of justice, obstruction of the investigation itself, they wouldn't have hesitated to move to bring an impeachment article. >> you served on the house judiciary committee during the nixon impeachment inquiry. and when you broke with the republican party, republican congress, there's a picture of a young william cohen. when you broke with your own republican party, you thought your career was going to be over. so what advice do you give republicans right now who think that they should begin some so...

Of members is impeachment does seem to be the most effective enforcement mechanism at obta obtaining all of this information that oversight is seeking. what a lot of constituents are expressing to their bosses is a frustration that it feels like congress can't even do their job on a day-to-day basis. you had someone like representative who put out a messaging memo on the end of last week encouraging his colleagues to stick to policy items. talking ining about health care. to reset and stop talking about mueller and trump ice ba's bait. you saw him go back and say today was the red line. there ...

Conservatism. >> but you think bipartisan, ben, can mean just one republican? the bar is really that low? >> well, i mean, it's meant to sound like it should be a wave of bipartisanship. as betsy said, that's not going to happen. but the question -- i was sort of joking about one republican, but the question is how few could you have and still claim that it was a bipartisan action? i don't think the answer is one or two, but look, 13 or so -- i forget how many voted to -- voted with the democrats on the national emergency legislation, and so i don't think it's impossible to imagine that if the...

Unique feature of our constitutional system, and he has the authority to make executive decisions, which include who are those who are loyal to him who feel executive branch functions. and to try to then in every instance equate motivation to make an executive determination is somehow constituting evidence of obstruction of justice i think is on thin constitutional ice. i think it's on very thin statutory ice for reasons that bill barr explained. with regard to the obstruction of gist 'tis statute. and frankly, if you are going to make that the basis of an impeachment referral, you will have t...