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President alleged to have committed perjury to keep the public from learning something that would be politically damaging and threaten his survival of president. it was thought he would have to resign when this came out. the defense you heard, on impeachment grounds was he may have committed perjury but this is over a private matter. it doesn't rise to that level. in an impeachment context, would that defense work here in. >> as you know having written a book about the '90, the impeachment issue is a public issue. it comes down to 20 republican senators. if we were impeached, whether or not he...

Precedent where congress of one party and seats a president of another party for political reasons. >> if we get this way, prosecute people and put them in jail for campaign finance violations we will be, banana republic. every president gets prosecuted and thrown in jail when done with all of this. >> jonathan turley tried to lower emotions by raising a bit of legal rationale quoting, republicans choose between imminent indication a conviction or reality. these filings present a serious threat for trump but do not yet establish a clear likelihood of imprisonment or even impeachment of the pre...

Congress of one party unseats the president of another party for political reasons. >> if we get this way and prosecute people and put them in jail for campaign finance contributions, we will become a banana republic. every president would get thrown in jail when done with law. >> and a person said the person can choose between conviction is or choose reality. and mitch mcconnell warned the impeachment issue may not be the winner democrats think it is and could help trump get reelected. >> shannon: we will talk about that with our panel. trace gallagher. thank you very much. some democrats are...

Thank you so much. so is it the white house strategy still and only that there's nothing to see here? is that what you're hearing? >> that's been the strategy for some time. we have seen over the course of the last several months how the president and his legal team have methodically tried to lower public confidence in the mueller investigation by decrying it as a witch hunt, by calling it a band of all angry democrats, which is not true, and what the president is saying on friday that it totally clears the president, which is also not true. so you're going to see this tactic continue over the...

Sanders --@symone sanders is her twitter handle. i didn't say that -- >> that's good advice. >> i'm saying that because of this. everybody has to play a role. we need activists, advocates, elected officials. you know, i like to say, i'm not a real activist. i just play one on tv. because i need to be sitting on cnn telling folks why people are dying in. we need our elected if officials to legislate. >> so then there is also the impeachment issue, okay? according to cnn's midterm exit polls, 77% -- 77% of democrats support impeaching president trump. a "washington post" analysis found only 21% ...