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>> no. it does happen from time to time. it's actually pretty rare. usually most of the time by the time someone has sat down, entered a guilty plea, they understand that the best they can do for themselves is to cooperate fully and truthfully so that they can get that motion and have a reduced sentence. and a good lawyer will sit down with their client and explain that to them. on rare occasion, there are defendants who will continue to lie, oftentimes minimizing their own role. it sounds like that's what happened with george papadopoulos, and at some point the government just tears up the pl...

To manafort doing this? >> no. it does happen from time to time. it's actually pretty rare. usually most of the time by the time someone has sat down, entered a guilty plea, they understand that the best they can do for themselves is to cooperate fully and truthfully so that they can get that motion and have a reduced sentence. and a good lawyer will sit down with their client and explain that to them. on rare occasion, there are defendants who will continue to lie, oftentimes minimizing their own role. it sounds like that's what happened with george papadopoulos, and at some point the governm...

Privilege and keep portions of the report confidential from congress. how important would it be for mueller to have access to these documents to draw from if his investigation includes impeachment material? >> it's important. i mean, he can do without it. but it's definitely important. nobody wants to reinvent the wheel. if you see how someone else analyzed this and processed this, that's helpful to sort of give you a roadmap to how to handle this and how to deal with his own legal report. he can do it without that. but at this point most of the key players in watergate are dead. what's the ha...

A tremendous amount of impeachment material. sought start of the cross-examination usually involves something like what we saw today from kevin downing. so ann, the defense, you know, they forced manafort to repeat that he lied to the special counsel. let's just be honest here. because we don't lie. 20 times he met with the special counsel. 20 times. before they agreed to do a deal. which means he lied a whole lot to bob mueller before he decided to stop lying to bob mueller. he admitted to stealing from manafort, helping manafort cheat on his taxes, said he may have taken money from the inaug...

Called impeachment material which means he has to provide to the defense all of the witness statements that were made by rick gates. the last thing he wants to do is turn over statements that gates has made about the conspiracy between the trump campaign and the russians. on top of that, prosecutors like me used to like to try really lean cases. the less evidence you put before the jury, the better you are because every time you call a witness, there are pluses and minuses. and if you don't need that person on the stand, you do not call them. >> shortest distance between two points. >> exactly...