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If you look at the exhibit list, there are lots of e-mails involving rick gates and a lot of directions. they don't need to call rick gates. in fact i don't think they are going to call rick gates. if you look at the prosecutor's opening, it is not traditional popping where the prosecutor says i am calling x witness and i want you to know about his background. he lied to us. he lied on his taxes, but the real issue is whether he is telling you the truth and you are going to tell you that what he tells you is corroborated. they didn't say that. >> to pre butt what defense is going to say about ...

Her about all impeachment material. so if rick gates did things during the campaign that were illegal or go to his credibility, then prosecutors could raise that and the defense could cross-examine on it. you know, it seems from some of the pretrial motions in litigation that the word russia i guess one of the prosecutors said probably won't even be uttered. so it sounds like they don't have that kind of impeachment material that they need to front and that manafort's lawyers will cross on. so i'm suspecting not. but if there is anything like that, that would be the context in which it would b...

To hack e-mails, which they did the same day, all of it is relevant evidence to what happened in this campaign. >> jennifer, i mean, at some point, rick gates himself will have to testify. do you think he'll find anything out about -- will we find anything out about the larger mueller investigation from that? >> you know, the one way that we could is that when a cooperator testifies, the defense is entitled to cross-examine him or her about all impeachment material. so, if rick gates did things during the campaign that were illegal or go to his credibility, then prosecutors could raise that an...

Competently discuss. the fact that he's saying now it's possible or he doesn't know whether he colluded -- i'm sure robert mueller is not very happy with that. if he is in fact a potential witness in the ongoing probe, even for obstruction of justice or anything else, you want your witnesses out of the public eye as much as possible, creating as little impeachment material on cross examination for potential defense attorneys in the future as possible. so i don't take this as the former fbi director saying that the president -- he can't tell whether the president colluded with russia or not bas...

Former fbi director jim comey as he prepares for a book blitz this month. this book "a higher loyalty: truths, lies and leadership" number two on amazon more than two weeks before its release, and tickets to some events going for as much as $850 online. everyone eager to see what he writes and says about what went down with president trump. could this complicate his role in bob mueller's investigation? joining me now, harry litman, former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant general under bill clinton and and msnbc contributor and former fbi agent and back with me. harry, start with you o...