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Magnate school in chicago to the south side of the city. it was for so many of us, it was transformational in terms of our life trajectories and mobility. here is the thing. nobody under 40 actually knows what that means. what does bussing mean? what does voluntary or forced or mandated desegregation mean? so it's interesting that it's now back center, right in the center of the democratic debate. >> it's fascinating. >> it is i think about and aimee said this, this is how social movements have changed the nature of the democratic party. there has been a racial justice movement, right, the mov...

Basis for doing it. maybe they'll make up a within for it now. it's so thin, and we know they're trying to prevent people of color and liberals from voting. >> we were talking about the seemingly ad hoc decision the president made to send a note, send a tweet to the leader of north korea about shaking hands at the border. i see this as part of a continuum, trying to delay the census. that this constitutionally mandated thing that could be delayed or moved at whim. >> he always says what serves him best in the moment. at this point it's hard to take him seriously. regardless of the issue. you k...

Leader has done, which is been willing to talk to the north koreans directly. so, we've got that far. what we don't know, we still don't know hare the north koreas playing him. let's blow hot and cold, until his term is up. either a year or so, five years from now. or in fact, are they serious about deneutralizing. we don't know the answer to that yet. >> michael, we appreciate your time and perspective today. thank you. still ahead, joe biden wastes no time defending his civil rights record. >> i want to be absolutely clear about my record and position. on racial justice including bussing. ...

Preserve the civil rights of all people. >> i supported the era from the very beginning. i'm the guy that extended the voting rights act for 25 years. we got to the place where we got 98 out of 98 votes in the united states senate doing it. i've also argued very strongly that we in fact deal with the notion of denying people access to the ballot box. i agree that everybody once -- my time is up. i'm sorry. >> today joe biden was back on the trail, trying to clean up the fallout from that clash last night. >> i heard and i listened to and i respect senator harris, but, you know, we all know tha...

Justice elena kagan said in an opinion she read from the bench. the partisan gerrymandering have debased and dishonored our democracy, the core governmental idea that all power derives from the people. >> i've been to the supreme court arguments, i've seen opinions handed down. it's extraordinary when a justice reads from a dissent. we had elena kagan doing that. what she had to say from the bench and what she's saying. >> she's saying to the rest of the court, you've abdicated your responsibility here. just because it would be hard for the court to intervene in a way that is defer yengs and r...