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Broke with u.s. protocol, as he spoke on the phone can the president of taiwan. since that call, trump has been vocal about using the one china policy as a bargaining chip. >> i fully understand the one china policy, but i don't know why we have to be bound by one china policy, unless we make a deal with china. having to do with other things, including trade. >> let's bring in our cnn chief national security correspondent, who i know knows china very, very well. jim sciutto. first of all, explain, you know, a one china policy and tell me more about these flights. >> reporter: okay. so, first o...

>> matter of concern. >> matter of concern. we will give him his chance. a lot of meaning in those few words. >> the other part of this interview that donald trump did with fox news. the one china policy. we know he and the president of taiwan talked. that concerned china. this part of the interview certainly took it one step further. listen to this. >> i fully understand the one china policy, but i don't know why we have to be bound by a one china policy unless we make a deal with china. having to do with other things, including trade. >> this could be a hint of a change in policy. this may n...

Of the chinese republic. >> including trade, look, we're being hurt badly by china. >> nbc's janice mckay freyer joining us from beijing. we've seen reaction. there's an official statement and people are wondering, how far this will go at this point? >> reporter: donald trump would not be the first to question the policy but not so public ly and recognizes taiwan as part of china, not an independent country. almost insulted the defining policy reduced to a bargaining

Relation. and matt, talk about the president creating more waves with china, his phone call with the taiwanese president. first time since the late '70s that an american president or president-elect has had a direct phone conversation with the president of taiwan. listen to how donald trump is explaining that. >> i fully understand the one china policy, but i don't know why we have to be bound by one china policy, unless we make a deal with china. having to do with other things, including trade. i mean, look, we're haurt veurt badly by china, devaluation, taxes us heavily at the borders and we...

Saw a swiss company coming in to buy 20% stake in that company. and it may be possibly drawing to an end and russia may have some kind of an economic recovery imminently. >> i think one of the two biggest transitions is, number one, the united states will have closer ties with russia. already is during the transition of president-elect, and number two, clarissa, it's going to have more complicated and thornier and hostile ties with china. listen to what president-elect trump said about the one-china policy over the weekend. >> i fully understand the one-china policy but i don't know why we hav...