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Secure. we would have been much better off with iran and iraq going at each other. >> fast forward to trump. did you ever imagine a presidency like this? >> no, and i don't want to use this anniversary to take another shot at him except to say there was a part of shot that he's repressed, which was interesting. the part that sort of gatsby, the sort of lower, the individual against the establishment. a bit like citizen cane. there's a very american piece there, but that's been smaugtered over by the indecency of the guy. there was a lot of important stuff going on there and that's why people i...

Testifying to just the facts. and then the president of the united states and his cohorts on the republican side attacking these public servants who were just trying to do their jobs and the smear campaign launched against ambassador yovanovitch for no reason at all after she had had 33 years of a career in public service without a single smirch. and he goes in one tweet and tries to destroy her career. >> i think he showed his indecency. anyway, republicans on the house intelligence committee used dramatic tactics to claim the process led by democrats was unfair. >> the democrats staged six w...

Comes out of your house like donald trump. they go out to the burbs to get better public schools, that's why they move there. they don't want their kids growing up like donald trump. >> i think that and they're also issue voters. they also don't want to go in the beginning of september and have to buy bulletproof backpacks. that's what happened in virginia, women actually voted because there was a pro-gun reform agenda -- they came out for yes they don't like the sensibilities of the president and what. but then it's also the issues he chooses not to pursue and the vulnerabilities that come if...

Because they couldn't win the cities, we didn't win the baltimore and the los angeles and the philadelphias, so we could always play in the suburbs, we could rally that vote. and what you've begun to see which actually has been trending for quite some time in places like wisconsin and elsewhere, the dems are moving effectively into that space. they're making arguments on health care and so the politics of trump rallies the base and stirs the passions, but it doesn't necessarily translate into -- >> i agree with you ability the number. i think we agree the suburberize going blue. i have another...

But he's someone who cannot understand his job is to put the american people first in every single instance and he's never to put himself ahead of them. that is what i spotted from day one, that he is a deeply corrupt man and it's absolutely critical for this country to draw that distinction and the democracy itself and the american people to get a chance -- >> why did 2 out of 5 americans in poll after poll put up with this indecency? >> i don't think the evidence has been made clear, and there's a question now about having televised hearings -- >> you think televised hearings where you basic...