secure. we would have been much better off with iran and iraq going at each other. >> fast forward to trump. did you ever imagine a presidency like this? >> no, and i don't want to use this anniversary to take another shot at him except to say there was a part of shot that he's repressed, which was interesting. the part that sort of gatsby, the sort of lower, the individual against the establishment. a bit like citizen cane. there's a very american piece there, but that's been smaugtered over by the indecency of the guy. there was a lot of important stuff going on there and that's why people i think voted for him. and once he got into power he didn't elevate himself to the office. he took shots at peoples physical disabilities, at their looks, their voice, their gender. this is something our parents