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You have written a book called "the case for impeachment," i believe it's called. this is as close as it's gotten. it's not new information in that we knew from michael cohen's earlier testimony and the information against him that he said he was directed by individual one, but now the sdny seems to be saying they believe that to be the case. >> right. i mean, i think you see something very serious. the real question that comes out is what is the implication of the prosecution, the conviction of michael cohen for president trump? >> right, that's the question. >> during watergate the grand jur...

General harry litman, also joins us, and nick akerman is staying with us. nick was a former watergate prosecutor and is an msnbc legal analyst. thanks to all three of you, liz, let's start with you. you have written a book called "the case for impeachment," i believe it's called. this is as close as it's gotten. it's not new information in that we knew from michael cohen's earlier testimony and the information against him that he said he was directed by individual one, but now the sdny seems to be saying they believe that to be the case. >> right. i mean, i think you see something very serious...

Confessed as well as alleged. in the case of cohen, confessed, and alleged with manafort. and obstruction of people tied to the united states. individual one, donald trump, identified for the first time for directing a campaign-related felony. a big day, indeed. thank you for watching our coverage. that does it for me. you can check out "the beat" 6:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc.

>> jennifer? >> oh, yes. >> ken dilanian? >> the answer is yes because this has been the most consequential day yet of the mueller investigation. >> that is quite a statement given how many days there have been. i want to give a special thanks to our entire panel and the legal analysis here. and if you are joining us right now, you've been watching "the beat with ari melber" on a day when bob mueller spoke through speaking indictments and the southern district of new york spoke. and what we heard were two different stories that intersect with criminal activity confessed as well as alleged in t...

Works. if there was something with a corrupt intent. then whoever made that offer is on the hook. i think it's -- we're not just talking about cohen here, mueller has sponsored the statement by cohen that he had frequent communications, more frequent than he admitted with individual one. donald trump. i believe that you have to look at it, this is why it matters for collusion, obstruction. you have to -- >> where's the collusion, where's the obstruction. >> the motive, the motive. chris. here's how it matters. >> please. >> here's how it matters for collusion. we just -- like we've had with on...