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the us is post—slavery, post—segregation, but definitely not post—racism. my guest is ibram x kendi, an influential writer and academic who argues the only way to not be racist is to be actively anti—racist — a message he says children must hear. is his approach bound to intensify america's internal conflict? ibram x kendi, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me on. it's a pleasure to have you here. your focus right now seems to be on children, and your contention that children, very young children even, should be told about racism, even if it's not a daily reality th...

an influential writer and academic who argues the only way to not be racist is to be actively anti—racist — a message he says children must hear. is his approach bound to intensify america's internal conflict? ibram x kendi, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me on. it's a pleasure to have you here. your focus right now seems to be on children, and your contention that children, very young children even, should be told about racism, even if it's not a daily reality that they are actually living with. why? because unfortunately, studies are showing that it is a daily realit...

their intentions to run. those are the headlines. now on bbc news, it's hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i'm stephen sackur. the fractures in american society are widening over guns, abortion, education, and more. but the deepest, most traumatic fracture is surely over race — and it impacts all of the others. the us is post—slavery, post—segregation, but definitely not post—racism. my guest is ibram x kendi, an influential writer and academic who argues the only way to not be racist is to be actively anti—racist — a message he says children must hear. is his approach bound ...

— so we don't talk about race at all, but in many ways, we are talking about race. there's a buzzword that people use, agency, to indicate that oftentimes, one has to consider the impact that a collective view like yours about what is happening in america, what impact it has on the individual�*s mentality. if you tell a teenager coming out of a school that, because he's black, the system and the odds are stacked against him, and there are handicaps and hurdles he will have to face, is there not a danger that you are encouraging that child to be fatalistic about his future? to believe that ...